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Consumer Confidence, Magic Mushrooms, Social Security, and More

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Consumer Confidence Plunges to 12-Year Low

Axios article showing consumer confidence fell 9.7 points in January to 84.5%
Disconnect between GDP growth numbers and consumer sentiment
GDP includes government spending and high-end investment not reflective of average workers
Food costs up 20-30% with shrinking real income
California tax burden particularly severe with second highest state taxes and energy costs

Michael explained the gap: "Statistics say, if people are unhappy, then people are unhappy. And if people perceive that things aren't well with the economy, that's what matters, right? Even if the economy's growing, even if things are objectively better, which I'm not saying they aren't, it doesn't ultimately matter because people don't think so."

Mark noted the disparity: "I think the guy on the streets actually reflecting what's going on as opposed to what the GDP numbers reflect this aggregate number that has a lot of components to it that I think the everyday average guy simply does not experience."

Drug Legalization and End-of-Life Care

Discussion of Lisa Jacobs documentary about using psilocybin for stage four breast cancer
Jacobs found considerable comfort through supervised psychedelic therapy in Colorado
Psilocybin only legal under supervision in Colorado and Oregon under "right to try" laws
Medical evidence supporting psilocybin for PTSD treatment
Mark's personal experience with microdosing for PTSD

Mark emphasized individual rights: "It's really not the state's business to interfere with a person's life and what they ingest in their body, particularly at stages like this, Michael, where somebody benefits so deeply from a treatment that is made illegal rather arbitrarily just because the federal government has deemed it harmful for people or because they've deemed that some people will abuse it."

Michael raised concerns about limited legalization: "I think that there's a risk to when you argue, well, people should be able to get this stuff when they're sick. That, that they then say, well, okay, I can allow that, but just not full legalization when full legalization should be the goal."

Mark explained broader benefits: "There's been quite a bit of medical evidence to suggest that psilocybin really helps with issues like PTSD. I know for myself personally, microdosing has been amazing for me. Um, and I was diagnosed with PTSD many, many, many years ago. Uh, it has been, it really levels, levels you out, changes your brain, chemistry changes the way you look at the world, and those changes are lasting."

Michael shared personal experience: "I have done the LSD and I don't really like it... I've done LSD I think nine times. I've done mescaline once."

He recounted being pulled over while on multiple substances with a loaded handgun, being arrested and charged with attempted murder on a police officer (later dismissed), and spending the weekend in lockup overdosing on LSD: "From Friday night until Monday, I, you know, on an overdose of LSD cocaine and everything else, uh, I had to spend, uh, there... The moral of the story kids is, um, don't be a criminal. Don't get high on LSD."

Social Security as Redistribution Not Retirement

Article discussing how Social Security is misunderstood as retirement account
Actually functions as direct consumption tax redistributing wealth from young to old
System going bust by 2032
Mark expecting to be means-tested out or taxed at 100% despite paying in since age 15
At Social Security's inception, 150 workers per retiree made pyramid scheme work
First recipient made over 1000 times what she paid in

Mark explained the coming crisis: "They're either going to raise the retirement age, they're going to means tests. So they're gonna means test me out of, uh, collecting all of the, all of the money that they've stolen from me over the years, or they're going to cut me a check and tax it at 100%. Those are the three options that are left to me who have been paying into the system since I was legitimately working in the system at 15 and a half."

Actor Tax Issues and Incorporation

Discussion of Mark's experience with taxes as an actor
Made $10,000 per week on The Hunted but received only about $1,000 after taxes
IRS taxed him as if he made that amount every week all year
Formed S corporation to control taxation
Working in Canada results in automatic 23% federal withholding
California property taxes seven times higher than friend's 32-acre Colorado property

Mark detailed the burden: "Even as it is now, Michael, when I'm working in Canada, 23% of my money goes to them straight off the top. That's of course, um, credited towards my federal income tax. But then I've got 13% income tax here, state income tax here, including all the local taxes and, uh, property taxes, which are based on the assessments of my house."

Russia-Ukraine War and Forced Recruitment

Russia offering $2,000/month cash bonuses to attract fighters
Also offering commuted sentences for prisoners and fast track citizenship for foreigners
Foreign nationals from South Asia being swindled into front-line combat roles
Russia in wartime economy for six years, losing tens of thousands between ages 20-40
Avoiding another forced 300,000-400,000 recruitment to prevent demographic/economic collapse

Mark analyzed the situation: "This demonstrates to me how weak Russia really is. I mean, they've been in a wartime economy for six years approximately, uh, in preparation for their invasion of Ukraine. That means they're, they're not really producing anything. The things they produce are for war and they're meant to be busted up and broken. They don't have any real value, and they're losing people en mass by the tens of thousands young people from ages between the ages of 20 and 40 years of age, who at their most productive times in their life."

Michael tied to Trump's promises: "The reason I actually sent you the article was because Trump assured everybody he would end this, uh, conflict right away. And they've been talking about making progress. Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin's trying to get as many people to fight as possible. Um, so obviously they are not looking to wind down this war. They're not looking to end this war. They're looking to win this war."

Soho Forum AI Debate

Michael attended debate in New York: "AI will bring net benefits to the overwhelming majority of people"
Perry Metzger vs. Brian Merchant
Metzker argued even homeless people will benefit through healthcare improvements
Addressed environmental concerns about water usage (recycling systems)
Refuted claims AI will become autonomous
Demonstrated AI already engages in reasoning, not just fact reproduction
Michael served as timekeeper

Michael praised the debate: "This guy Perry Metzker, might've been this one of the smartest people I've ever heard. Talk or watched... He was phenomenal. He put on a presentation and he was able to answer every single challenge to him."

Mark added medical benefits: "He said AI will, will cut trials from, say, I'm just gonna throw out an arbitrary number here, but it's equivalent, uh, in, in scale to what he said. He said, it'll cut trials from say, 6,000 trials to a hundred... That alone, Michael, is an enormous benefit. The diagnostic benefits and just in the medical field alone of AI will save hundreds of thousands of lives, in my opinion, in the future, perhaps even millions."

ICE Agent Threatens: "You Raise Your Voice, I Erase Your Voice"

Video from Republicans Against Trump showing ICE agent in Minnesota
Agent sitting in unmarked vehicle with full ICE regalia
Repeated threat multiple times when questioned
Agent's face fully exposed, no mask

Mark characterized the threat: "This is not policing folks. This is not, this is not what a police force does. This is what a specially empowered service in service of a regime does. To feel this kind of impunity, Michael, to be able to say this in America is frightening."

Michael confirmed authenticity: "I don't like to judge things by snippets. 'cause they often can be taken out of context and you don't know. I at first didn't know if this was authentic. I fact checked it. It is authentic... I don't know what context could be brought to justify this, you know what I mean? Like what, what would make this statement from this ice agent? Okay. Yeah. I just can't think of any."

Minnesota Immigration Enforcement and Alex Preti Shooting

Discussion of cooperation issues between Minnesota authorities and ICE
Minnesota cooperating with information but not providing jail access
Comparison to Texas deportation rates
Rhetoric targeting Somalis as "terrorists" and "fraudsters"
References to "Haitians eating cats and dogs"

Michael analyzed the situation: "I think perhaps some can be explained by, uh, the non-cooperation of the local authorities, but not everything. And we also don't know what would be the kickback or, you know, the, the pushback from the citizenry in Minnesota. If the police did side with ice, if they did aid them... I just don't think that we can dismiss the rhetoric of the Trump administration, the rhetoric of the MAGA folks and the behavior of the ICE agents all, and just say, well, it's because Minnesota's not helping."

False Claims About Alex Pretti Shooting

Administration initially claimed Pretti came with two magazines intending massacre
Claimed he brandished firearm in attempt to intimidate police
12 videos disproved these claims
Preti never brandished firearm when he could have
Administration had to walk back narrative and policy

Mark emphasized importance of documentation: "Thank God for these people out there filming the quote unquote interferes and protestors, because without them, we wouldn't really know what happened to both of these individuals who were killed. Uh, and we wouldn't know what was really going on in the front lines. Uh, there would be a media blackout if, if it, if ICE wanted that it had their way."

Tom Holman Deployment to Minnesota

Holman positioned as opponent to Trump's radical arrest policies
Brought in to potentially fix situation in Minnesota
Some Republicans beginning to show cracks in support
Kristi Noem making defensive statements about Miller approval

Michael noted potential shift: "I think that there may be some Republicans that are starting to see that this is just not tenable. You can't keep this up. These, these, you know, optics to use the, uh, word in, in vogue, just not good for them at all."

Notable Quotes

Mark on Drug Legalization: "Look a capitalist society. None of these drug laws would exist. Drugs would be decriminalized, uh, and they would be legalized, uh, across federally legalized."

Michael on Limited Medical Legalization: "John Q. Public just wants to go sit in his bathroom, tripping on shrooms, looking out the window. He, he has every right to do so, just as much as a cancer patient does."

Mark on Social Security: "I will probably never see the benefits of it in my lifetime if they're going to keep this thing solvent because, uh, at the time that they started Social Security, there was something like 150 workers or so per retiree. So the pyramid scheme sort of worked out for the retiree."

Michael on Russia-Ukraine: "Vladimir Putin is an invader. He violated the, the sovereignty of a nation - Ukraine. He has no remorse, no compunction about slaughtering people. And he does not care to end this on any terms, but his own."

Mark on Russia's Weakness: "This just shows how, how sick communist economies really are, how teetering on the edge they are of destruction all the time."

Mark on AI Benefits: "We're in the middle of a real revolution. I mean, a real, real revolution. An intellectual and technological revolution."

Mark on ICE Threats: "To feel this kind of impunity, Michael, to be able to say this in America is frightening."

Michael on Minnesota Situation: "The police in Minnesota helping or not. You don't then get to shoot people. You know, just because they're, you know, struggling with you."

Mark on Documentation: "Thank God for these people out there filming the quote unquote interferes and protestors, because without them, we wouldn't really know what happened."

Referenced Media/Articles

Axios article on consumer confidence
Free Precedent article on Russian recruitment
New York Times video analysis (mentioned in chat)
Washington Post coverage (mentioned)
Republicans Against Trump video of ICE agent
Lisa Jacobs documentary on psilocybin therapy

Key Themes

Individual liberty vs. state control over personal choices
Drug legalization and medical freedom
Economic indicators vs. lived experience
Government redistribution schemes masquerading as insurance
Immigration enforcement abuses and civil liberties
Authoritarian tactics in domestic policing
AI revolution and technological benefits
Documentation and transparency vs. state propaganda
Russia's economic weakness and military desperation

Capitalist Thought of the Day

"We've been talking about a lot of issues today: consumer confidence, legalization of drugs, immigration issues. In a capitalist society, drugs would be legalized, immigration would be open to all except criminals and people with communicable diseases, and you would be free to live your life basically unencumbered by the government. That is the society that we want to see, one in which the individual is able to actualize their potential as much as they possibly can, instead of the world that we have today where your potential is restrained and put down by the state, where you're not allowed to keep what you own, where what you own is subject to other people's oversight. We want you to have full and complete choice in every aspect of your life. And that's what capitalism represents folks: 100% free choice in every aspect of human action." - Mark